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HUNTING JOURNAL
Dove Hunting at Estancia Los Chanares, Argentina, October 2005
Written by B.Fontenot, LA |
The following is a day by day record of the dove hunt Mike Simm and I made with an excellent outfitter just north of the city of Cordoba, Argentina. While this was the most phenomenal dove hunt we have ever been on, it is important to note that this hunt almost did not take place. A few weeks before our hunting trip was supposed to occur, hurricane Rita hit the town of Delcambre (Mike's office is there). The news said the town was completely under water. I called Mike to find out how bad his office was damaged. As we spoke he was on his way, boat in tow, to Delcambre to see if he still had an office. As we concluded our conversation we both agreed that there was no chance, in light of what happened, that we would be able to make the hunt. Two hours later my cell phone rang. It was Mike. He said "There's no water in my office, I will be fine... DON'T CANCEL THE HUNT! The rest is history.
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The following is a day by day record of the dove hunt Mike Simm and I made with an excellent outfitter just north of the city of Cordoba, Argentina. While this was the most phenomenal dove hunt we have ever been on, it is important to note that this hunt almost did not take place. A few weeks before our hunting trip was supposed to occur, hurricane Rita hit the town of Delcambre (Mike's office is there). The news said the town was completely under water. I called Mike to find out how bad his office was damaged. As we spoke he was on his way, boat in tow, to Delcambre to see if he still had an office. As we concluded our conversation we both agreed that there was no chance, in light of what happened, that we would be able to make the hunt. Two hours later my cell phone rang. It was Mike. He said "There's no water in my office, I will be fine... DON'T CANCEL THE HUNT! The rest is history.
October 14- Afternoon hunt- 4:10 to 6:50---- 60 boxes of shells shot by me. Drive to field was 3 minutes...could have actually walked to the field. Under trees, 70 degrees, sun and wind to our back. Could have shot 'till 8 PM easily. Enough shooting for 1st day.
Dinner: Free range sirloin strip, new potatoes (similar to La Fonda's), Opus One wine, coconut cake and ice cream with ice cream spritzer drink. It was cool that night so we finished the evening with a fine Port wine next to a warm fire in the study.
October 15- Wake-up call 8 AM.
Breakfast: Wonderful Brazilian coffee, orange juice, homemade muffins, waffles, eggs, bacon, ham, cereal, toast, grilled cheese, sweet milk caramel spread, and other selections to numerous to mention.
Morning hunt- 8:45 to noon---- 75 boxes of shells. Becoming apparent that this gigantic roost has phenomenal amounts of doves all around it. 7000 acres of property. Never putting any shooting pressure on doves..the place is too big! They can handle 15-20 hunters at one time easily. Their max for lodging is 17 persons in exclusive accommodations. Today, if Mike and I would shoot all day with no breaks, we could easily have shot 10 cases of shells each (just today). The drive to the field was a little over 3 minutes. Instead of devoting 1.5 to 3 hours per day driving to the fields, we can now use this extra time to enjoy wine with lunch and have plenty of time for a midday nap without sacrificing hunting time.
Lunch: A Bar-b-que... Dove Kabobs (melt in your mouth), Free range beef Tenderloin
(medium rare), huge beef and pork ribs, ¼ chicken, Flan and sweet milk caramel. "Los
Haroldos" wine...a blend of Cabernet and Malbec.
Afternoon hunt- 3:45 to 6 PM 50 boxes. 68 degrees, high winds. We quit at 6 PM deciding to save our energy for the roost tomorrow morning. 5 minute drive to and from field. Arrived at lodge physically spent...then we had massages which were great. Felt like a new person after the masseuse left. Fatigue completely resolved!
Dinner: Dove etouffee, spinach ravioli, Tira Misu, "Alamos" wine, a Malbec.
October 16- Morning hunt 60 boxes. 65 to 70 degrees, dead calm, crystal clear skies, perfect conditions. 15 minutes to another property. This day will go down in infamy---call it "Mike's Mecca Day" or " It wasn't pretty on the hill". non-stop flocks of 200 to 400 doves for 4 hours! Must have seen 2 million birds by morning's end. Most phenomenal display of doves we have ever seen in 25 years. Mike loaded his own guns and shot 70 boxes. If his bird boy would have loaded his guns for him he would have easily shot over 100 boxes of shells that morning. I shot 60 boxes because I didn't join Mike's location until 2 hours into the morning hunt (when he called me on his field radio to come and experience this indescribable sight).
Afternoon hunt- Perfect conditions, 70 degrees, clear skies. 15 minutes to edge of Secondary roost. ZILLIONS OF BIRDS EVERYWHERE! Shot from 3:40 to 5:30 PM when Mike and I "ran out of gas". Shut down the shooting at 40 boxes. Too tired to lift gun. Looking back on the experience of this wonderful day we couldn't have been more pleased with everything! Mike and I returned to lodge for a 7 PM massage. Made fresh people out of us.
Dinner: Dove nuggets in white sauce with chimi churri salsa, huge pork chops with apples and onions, grey sauced sweet potatoes, fresh tomatoes with Balsamic vinegar, pear, cinnamon, graham cracker crust pie with almonds & ice cream dessert.
October 17- Morning hunt- 60 degrees early-75 degrees by 10 AM. No wind, clear sky, classic, easy shooting. We shot at least 75 to 85 % average on doves coming straight on us-no flaring-( I know we should be ashamed of ourselves continuing to shoot these easy shots...but we still did it!). Nice, relaxing, at your own pace shooting. It's becoming apparent to me that our hunting guides (Alex and Martin) here at Los Chanares have deliberately exposed us to a wide variety of types of shooting with their many varied hunting locations. It looks as if we have had a big improvement on the Argentina dove hunt experience by the No.1 desired improvement of having the drives to and from the fields never to be longer than 15 minutes... with the average time running at about 6 minutes...and then as an unanticipated bonus of having all the birds you can shoot on every hunt. We have had that all too familiar feeling of near total exhaustion from 16 hour hunting days. This place has allowed us to savor the hunt with fine wines and food and relaxing down time of our own choosing. Truly a quantum leap compared to all of our previous hunting trips. It's now 1:10 PM, we have finished lunch. Mike has checked his e-rnails, we are taking a nap in our air conditioned room, not in the hot, insect infested fields.
Lunch: Dove tacos (soft), fresh tomatoes, mashed garlic potatoes, 2 veal cutlets with chimmi churri sauce, apple pie and ice cream.
Afternoon hunt - Clear sky, 7 minutes to field, 75 degrees. Ended up meeting Mike at Cul-de-Sac shaped area. We sat under the trees and shot birds coming from all directions from 3:45 to 6:15 PM 45 boxes shot. Stopped shooting early... had enough for today. We were high on a hill shooting about 1/2 mile from the large roost. We could see about 3 miles in all directions and there were thousands of doves in any direction you would look. This place (7000 acres) can handle 100 hunters every day and not make a dent in the dove pop. No one can come into this locked gate property and they really know how to manage the bird population.
Dinner: Carpazis (like Proschiutto Italian ham) salad, Dove spaghetti, sweet cream caramel mousse.
October 18 (my birthday) Morning hunt- 75 degrees, clear, slight breeze, 34 boxes. Still more birds as far as the eye can see.
Lunch: Filet Mignon with mushroom sauce, avocado salad, cream potatoes, hot brownie pie with ice cream.
Mike and I together shot a total of 785 boxes of shells ( 39 cases). Our total of doves killed.... 11,640.
Heading home this afternoon. Looking forward to coming back next year...hopefully with more friends that really appreciate this fine style of dove hunting.
HUNTING JOURNAL
Dove Hunting at Estancia Los Chanares, Argentina, October 2005
Written by B.Fontenot – , LA
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Paloma shooting in Argentina
Paloma in Argentina is probably the most accessible high volume game shooting available in the world today. The birds are prolific and challenging and the cost of shooting them is relatively affordable. This article describes my recent trip to a Paloma shooting estancia near Cordoba in Argentina.
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Paloma shooting in Argentina
Paloma in Argentina is probably the most accessible high volume game shooting available in the world today. The birds are prolific and challenging and the cost of shooting them is relatively affordable. This article describes my recent trip to a Paloma shooting estancia near Cordoba in Argentina.
The bird
Paloma is a dove indigenous to much of South America and it is very common in the grain growing areas of Argentina. They are considered to be an agricultural pest due to the amount of grain they consume, particularly during the planting season. Paloma can be shot throughout the year without limit under a game licence.
Paloma is the common name given to the Eared dove (Zenaida auriculata). It is a small slate grey bird 24cm long weighing about 110 grams. It has a fine black line extending behind its eye and a blue black mark in the lower ear coverts. The wings have large black spots. The tail is long and wedge shaped. In the hand the chest and vent have a rosy grey tint. In the air it is a neat compact bird resembling a small blue rock dove (common feral pigeon) in profile and flight. It is very fast under power and is even faster with its wings set in descent or with the wind behind it. This speed and its ability to rapidly change directions make it a challenging game bird.
The Estancia
The ranch I shot at is called Los Chanares. It is named after a small tree with distinctive green bark that is a favored roosting tree for Paloma in Cordoba province. Los Chanares is sited on 10,000 acres of a major Paloma roost, hence the name. In fact much of the roost is covered in a thorn bush which is even more favored by the Paloma for resting, nesting and roosting.
Los Chanares is a purpose built shooting estancia (ranch). It is organized around shooting. The 10,000 hectares are mostly covered in thick scrub ranging over low hills. Adjacent to the lodge is a large field of around 60 hectares which is used to grow sunflowers in the summer. The crop is for the birds. The remainder of the property is natural scrub with roads pushed through it to provide access to the shooting sites. Where soil conditions allow these roads have been widened or extended into small fields for additional crop areas. Shooting stations are sited throughout the property to take advantage of the cover of larger trees, ridge lines etc. Many have had small blinds built in front of them to provide additional cover for the shooters. There are over eighty shooting stations on the property to accommodate shooters and to provide adequate rotation so the birds do not avoid heavily shot areas.
A recent scientific estimate puts the Cordoba dove population at around 32 million birds. Los Chanares estimates that there it has around a million birds resident on its 10,000 hectares. Walking around and seeing the large numbers of birds in the air and on the ground feeding would seem to suggest that this is a reasonable estimate. The birds have two young per breeding cycle and have around four breeding cycles per year. The birds are fed year round with the sunflower crop and, in winter, the daily spreading of corn. A small stream and an artificial pond provide water.
My visit to Los Chanares was at the start of the shooting season. There is a short break of around three months from March to June and my visit was in mid June. This meant that I had the property to myself. I was accompanied on my visit by my wife, Megan, who took a short break from our three week tour of northern west Argentina to allow me three days of shooting. The accommodation and services are truly luxurious. The food was excellent and far too plentiful for someone my age. The service warm and attentive and our hosts organized a day tour of the local historical sites for my wife for one day of our stay. We both found Los Chanares a very pleasant place to spend a few days even without the shooting.
The shooting
We arrived at Los Chanares around lunch time and after introductions, a very large steak for lunch and a short rest, I was taken by truck to my designated shooting station for my first session. In the back of the truck was my loader, Franco, two 28 gauge Berretta silver pigeons and case of shells.
Martin the game keeper at Los Chanares has made intelligent use of the terrain and selective clearing to create of wide variation of shooting experiences. Some stations offer short range rapid fire shooting, others high fast passing shots, while others offer overhead birds. Collectively they provide the full range birds likely to be encountered on a driven game shoot. The sheer number of birds ensures there is a steady stream of targets that would approximate or exceed the high volume British driven game shoots of the late 19th century. However, the Paloma are not driven, they are simply moving in and out or around the roost in their daily cycle of movements.
We were dropped on the side of a dirt track with our gear and walked about 25 metres down a rough track to the shooting position. Station one was on the side of a small gully in heavy scrub. We had some high scrub behind us and two larger trees with dead branches to our left. To the right was more thick scrub which limited visibility. Down slope and to the right I could see around 70 metres over low vegetation. Franco put the gun together, loaded it and handed it to me clearly expecting me to get on with it. I had a quick inspection of the gun, moved the selector to fire the lower barrel first and out of habit put the safety catch in the on position.
There were birds moving all around us and I fired off my first two shots at Paloma. I didn't hit anything but it didn't matter much since there were birds in the air constantly. I broke the gun and handed the empties to Franco who seemed a bit surprised I didn't eject them but quickly inserted two more shells into the empty chambers. After a few more shots I started to drop a few birds, most of which fell into thick scrub. I wasn't sure whether we supposed to retrieve as we went but since Franco kept reloading the gun I kept shooting. It took a little while to get a sense of the range since I had no real idea how large or small the birds were and what they should look like when they were in range. But after some trial and error things started to come together and hits started to become a bit more regular. I quickly learned that one shot at a time was prudent except where a wounded bird needed a follow up second shot. I found it difficult to track two birds at the same time.
The birds were small but they were very fast and highly mobile. A Paloma under power is faster than a clay target and a dropping bird with its wings set is very fast indeed. I missed many birds by not giving them enough lead. Range estimation was an early problem. Subtending was not much use because the birds were too small to extend beyond the barrel width even when they were well within range. I eventually found that a useful benchmark was that if I could see their eye and if they looked three dimensional they were around 35 metres away. This did not mean that they were easy to hit though. I missed many incoming birds because they shifted course after I had blotted them out with my barrels. The passing birds required a lot of lead and a smooth follow-through.
About 10 minutes into the shooting several large eagles arrived and positioned themselves in the dead trees around 30 metres to my left. When a bird fell in an accessible position one would drop down and pick it up. Franco was unperturbed by this so I figured it is part and parcel of Paloma shooting. After a few more minutes a grey fox arrived and picked up a dead bird around thirty metres in front of me. Fascinated by the exotic wildlife I took time out to watch an eagle juggle and swallow a dove whole and kept an eye out for the fox. In the undergrowth around me I could hear the sounds of animals moving.
Franco explained that there were both eagles and hawks attending our hunt. After consulting a bird book back at the lodge I decided that I had observed Black Chested Buzzard Eagles (Buteo melanoleucus) and a Crested Caracaras (Polyborus plancus). The former is stout bird about the size of a Little Eagle, the latter a bird allied to the falcons with a buoyant wing forward flight like a black cockatoo and distinctive white window on each under wing. I also saw another large red eagle which I could not clearly identify. All have adjusted well to life on Los Chanares and like the fox had learnt to associate gun fire with food.
This station provided shots from all angles but the most regular shots were birds coming up the gully at an angle of around 25 degrees. I tried to vary the shots I took but found the overheads from behind particularly difficult because the birds were out of range if I did not pick them up very quickly. I also found the eagles baulked my swing. I assumed it would be bad form to bag an accidental eagle. I shot around five boxes over the course of around two hours before indicating to Franco that I had had enough for the day.
I should introduce Franco at this point. Franco was a friendly young man in his mid twenties. He knew his business and he applied his skills with professional pride. He spoke little English and I spoke no Spanish so our oral communication was limited but these limitations did not impede our partnership and my experience was much richer for his presence. His equipment included a folding shooting chair with integral cooler box with drinks inside it, a bag for birds and empties, a magnetic shell picker upperer, and a click counter to keep track of the birds I shot. He was very attentive, watching closely my every move, and always ready with two new shells when the gun had been fired. As each pack of shells went into his vest Franco carefully folded the empty pack and placed it into the first empty pack to keep track of the shell count. The balance at the end of each shoot was kept aside for the next session. When I needed a break Franco would produce whatever I wanted from the cooler and offered me the chair.
Franco quickly accommodated my habit of extracting the spent shells (rather than ejecting them) and of helping him carry the equipment back to the pick up site at the end of the shoot. He complemented me on the odd good shot and he agreed when I told him I had missed too far behind. Franco sensed my interest in the local wildlife and told me the common name of the birds we saw and heard. I was particularly pleased when after a few sessions he called me amigo. At the end of the shooting session Franco would use his radio to summon the truck to come and pick us up and alert home base of my imminent arrival. On my arrival back at the accommodation I was greeted at the door and handed a cool towel to freshen up.
Next morning around nine I was taken to my next shooting assignment. There was a lifting fog and the shooting station faced west on the side of a hill. I had a large tree behind me and a road on my left although this did not extend my line of sight all that far. Birds were coming towards me out of the fog or quickly from my right. These latter birds often had their wings set descending from the ridge above. The fog amplified the sound of the bird's wings and the sound they made reminded me of grey teal. There were around 20 birds visible in my shooting window most of the time and range was difficult to estimate in the fog. The birds came out of the fog thick and fast and I managed to knock a good few of them down. Later in the morning a tractor came up the road and I stopped shooting until they had passed. The guys on the tractor threw a dead bird up over the bushes from behind us. They thought that was a great joke and we all had a laugh. A few minutes later Tango the estancia's resident Great Dane came up the road and helped himself to a few dead doves for breakfast. I was not keeping count but felt that my shooting was steadily improving. When I had had about two hours shooting I called a halt and helped Franco gather up the birds.
Station 3 in the afternoon was at the corner of an overgrown field on the side a hill facing north. The birds flew very high here with the dominant flow being incomers at my extreme left. It took me a while to get their measure but I managed to pull down some very high and fast birds. There were fewer birds in the air and most were at extreme range. At one point three horses walked out of the scrub and crossed the field in front of me. Franco radioed back to the estancia and explained to me that they belonged to workers on the estancia and shouldn't have been there. That night we had delicious dove breast nuggets for appetizers before dinner from the birds we had gathered that morning. The breasts had been soaked in milk then crumbed and deep fried. They were delicious and Megan and I made a good show of eating them making a substantial dint in our dinner appetite
Station 4 was under a large tree in a flat field adjacent to a major gully. There were two other trees nearby. Between me and estancia was a heavily vegetated gully but I could see the top of a grain silo about 150 metres on my right. Directly in front was another tree about 40 metres away which was a useful range indicator but immediately beyond it was another tree with a saddled horse standing beneath it. Immediately beyond the horse a service track emerged from the gully and ran to my right. Since I was under a large tree most of the shooting window contained an obstacle or two. I did not feel all that comfortable lobbing shot on the Estancia roof, the silo, or the horse. I therefore kept my shooting as high and to the right as I could manage. The main flows of birds were high passing shots in both directions. I shot well all morning with a double on my first and last two shots of the day. Tango came over when he heard the shooting and had a couple of birds for breakfast. An eagle turned up as well and ate a few birds. The tractor appeared from the gully about mid morning and little later Megan came up the road on her morning walk. I called her over for a quick range safety instruction before she continued her walk. At this station I shot the one and only following bird for the trip. Remarkably over three days shooting this was the only bird I shot that I was not aiming for.
Station 5 that afternoon was facing a 20 metre ride. We were on the up hill side of the road with birds coming across the road towards me. There was also a lighter traffic from behind. The incomers were coming into view across the road at around 40 metres. To get a shot in required quick target acquisition and no hesitation. This station approximated my idea of driven partridge shooting with birds suddenly appearing over a hedge in front of me. I found the best way to shoot it was to concentrate on a narrow part of the hedge, make a quick range assessment, and blot the bird out for a very quick shot. The neighbourhood eagles and hawks came in quickly for breakfast and a small grey fox came out the scrub opposite three times to pick up downed birds. At one point a guy came up the road on a horse. He waved a quick hello as he passed.
The last shooting station on my final morning was on the edge of the gully facing the entry road and the 60 hectare field. The station was only around 50 metres from the lodge. This field was spread with corn (maize) each day to feed the doves. There was therefore a constant stream of overhead and incoming birds. I shot 7 boxes on this station and the most I had shot on any session so far. Tango and the eagles had a good breakfast. Megan walked down to watch me shoot but pronounced that it was not a very appealing spectator sport as I dropped incoming and passing birds with some efficiency. Towards the end of the morning a number of Crested Caracara came down to gather some of the fallen.
Statistics
I did not set out to shoot a large number of birds at Los Chanares. My goal was to enjoy the shooting rather than test my physical endurance and from experience I knew that my shooting would deteriorate when I become fatigued. I therefore chose to use a 28 gauge over and under rather the 20 gauges and semi autos on offer. I set myself a notional quota per session of around six boxes of shells. This gave me around two hours of unhurried shooting and approximated a full day of simulated field shooting twice a day.
I tried to vary the targets I selected and to shoot only challenging birds. I avoided shots at slow moving and close birds and I fired a follow-up shot on any bird I did not consider a clean kill wherever possible.
I did not count the birds I thought I had hit preferring to keep my concentration on the next bird. Franco on the other hand made a very careful count using the click counter in his kit. He had a keen eye and a lot of experience in Paloma shooting so I can only assume that he made an accurate count as he saw it.
I did not ask Franco for a count each day and he did not offer one but at the end of my trip I was presented with a statistical analysis of each shooting session when I paid the shell bill. According to Franco I shot around six birds for every ten shots fired. This stuck me as a good bit higher than I would have estimated. I would have said around four. Martin the game keeper had told me that the real overall success rate at Los Chanares is more like one bird for every four shells fired so even allowing for a healthy amount of own side bias I felt I had shot pretty well.
Equipment
I used one of the Estancia's guns rather than importing my own gun. The gun I chose to use was a 28 gauge Beretta silver pigeon. I found the gun almost identical to the one I own and more than adequate to the task. It was choked ¼ and ½ and this seemed an effective choking even on the higher birds (if I estimated the required lead correctly). The gun was fairly new and well maintained. Martin told me that the over and unders are fully serviced annually with the replacement of firing pins, ejectors, springs etc as required. He also told me the Bennelli semi autos worked very hard and parts were replaced much more regularly. Los Chanares' choice of these two makes is a powerful recommendation given the amount of use their guns get.
The cartridges were of local manufacture, 21 grams of 71/2 shot. They were loaded with a clean burning powder and used an Italian style wad. Over a case and half I had only three misfires caused by hard primers. They all went off when reloaded into the bottom barrel.
When I was on target I had no trouble killing birds in the air. Paloma did not seem that hard to kill but they a small bird and they needed to b centred in the pattern to ensure multiple pellet strikes. I measured instant kills out to 45 metres from the muzzle. I imagine that a 20 gauge would extend the range a little more but there seemed little reason to go up a gauge given the abundance of birds.
Overall assessment
My game bird experience has been limited to ducks and walked up pheasants and partridge but based on my reading I would say that Paloma shooting is a good approximation of high driven pheasant and partridge shooting.
Clay target shooting is a lot of fun but there is no comparison between the challenges presented by a predictable clay target and an unpredictable live bird. Los Chanares provided a great opportunity to hone my game shooting skills and to master the full range of shots almost under the controlled conditions of a clay target range. This was a rare and unique opportunity. Shooting the birds was preferable to alternative pest control methods such as poisoning and the dead birds were put to good use by the local wildlife, the chef and the employees.
The other wildlife encountered while shooting was a real and unexpected highlight. I saw eagles, hawks and foxes at close range. I saw perdiz (Tinamou), Chaco Chachalaca (a large pheasant like bird with a stunningly raucous dawn call), great flocks of blackbirds, siskins, ground doves, monk parrots, (individual) hummingbirds and quwi (wild guinea pigs). The range and abundance of birds was beyond anything I experienced before. I saw the tracks of white collared peccary or perhaps small deer and while I saw no sign of a puma I was assured that there were puma living in and around the Estancia. Perhaps they were silently eating the Paloma while I shot nearby.
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"Our arrival into Cordoba was easy. All of our guns and gear were loaded onto one cart and carried to customs for us. Getting the guns into the country was no problem. From there to the bus was all done for us. The ride to the lodge was comfortable and pleasant. The welcome arrival was extremely pleasant and set the tone for the whole trip in my opinion. Your house staff did an excellent job. Everyone of your staff was pleasant and courteous. I was most appreciative and told them all I appreciated their service. I have always believed people doing a good job need to be told so. The food for all three meals and snacks after the hunt were great. I enjoyed the lunch back at the lodge instead of at the field as with some outfitters. Getting really comfortable is so much better than a hammock or cot in the field. There are always flies and other bugs in the field to interrupt a nap! The shooting locations were all good. Mother nature made it interesting with the wind a couple of times, but that is hunting. It made me a better shot working on longer leads and other adjustments. I enjoyed it. Thanks for having 410. ga shells available. I really enjoy shooting mine better than anything else I own. They are not always available and I appreciate your having them. My bird boy Milton was a nice and kind person. He was attentive and polite. My compliments to him. My gear was always ready and he knew which gun I wanted to shoot when. I never had any problem with anything being mixed up."
Our exit from Argentina was as easy as coming in. We had help with our bags, through inspection and on our way. We had a perfect trip.
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"Thank you, the trip was all we could hope for. Los Chanares does a fabulous job. the facility is nice, the food is unbelievable and the hunting cannot be believed. Just as important is the staff. Everyone there seems to be trying their best. From Andreas at the airport, Martine and Alex, and all of the " little people". It's a long trip, but if you want to shoot doves, I cannot imagine a better experience. I will surely tell all my friends.
Thanks,"
- T.Gleissner |
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"It was a trip of a lifetime . We all made it OK and the guns are back in the safe clean and neat. You have a great team and a super wife take good care of them all like you took care of us .
THANKS a lot Alex for you hospitality and patience with us , Thank everybody for us from Eduardo ,Rene, Pedro to all the Estancia people who cooked and took care of us .
We are planning our next trip to see you next year.
Take care my friend
Best Regards"
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"Thank you for all you did to help Donna and our family put together this trip. We all had a blast and the trip was fantastic. Everyone from here to BA, Cordoba, Chanares, and back could not have been any better. You have a fantastic team of people and they take care of business first class. After my grandson, Cole Bailey, put a hurt on the birds, 5046, you may have to rest the place for a while. If you have anyone who needs the latest update on the place or feedback don't hesitate to call me. "
- WR, T. Kleberg |
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"Perfect weather. Incredible birds. The best food and drink. Wonderful hosts.
We all managed to sleep pretty well on the airline flights.
Put us down for next year about this same time. Adios, Mexico!"
- R.Soape, Texas |
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"It was the best hunt of any kind I’ve ever been on. The lodge and services were excellent, the people made us feel at home. The shooting was unsurpassed. I would like to book next year’s hunt for my brother and I. Thanks"
- R. S Lott,
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"Dear Alex,
First we want to thank you & your team very much for the wonderful time we spent at the Lodge, a great thanks to David as well who made our trip possible.
You & your wife are a great couple & a big added value to the whole system at the Estancia, even Baiba enjoyed the time a lot while being in a very masculin place & enviroment!
We jus arrived yesterday from our South American trip & we still insist that you come & visit us, we would really enjoy & you can stay at our place...
Bring your dad as well, it will be a pleasure!
Say Hi to all, Martin, Franco & the whole team without forgetting a special greeting from Baiba to Mrs. Mitri! :)
Till soon"
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"Good Day David,
Just a quick note of thanks for a really first class and hugely enjoyable stay at your estancia.
Vicki and I enjoyed the stay enormously, the accommodation and "house" facilities are superb, the staff all fantastic and the food and service beyond reproach. It was truly a memorable experience.
The dove shooting was for me a revelation. I had of course heard lots from Tony but you need to see it to really have an understanding and feeling for what goes on. As I am sure you will have heard I had decided to shoot "English style" and challenged myself to trying to bring down difficult high birds such as we shoot here in the UK. True to form the challenge was wonderful. At times I was having a go at things which were simply out of range given my use of the 28 bore with a very light load, but I am not sure that I would have done much better on the really high doves even with my 12 bore 32 gram 6's! Your Bird Boy, Diego, who looked after me did a great job and offered good support when it was needed.
The wild life in the shooting areas was amazing too, I could not get over the numerous eagles which circled continuously and indeed perched eating at no more than 25 meter distance. All in all a breathtaking experience.
Once again thank you very much for the opportunity of shooting at Los Chanares, please pass my best wishes and Christmas Greetings to all of your Team.
Happy Christmas and all success for 2010!"
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"Dear Sonia,
A wonderful time was had by all, see attachment "The gang from Ecuador".
Our special regards and thanks to the whole crew for the great organization, including you.
We were especially impressed by the management principals used in maintaining a healthy and abundant population of doves.
Also, it did not go unnoticed by the gang, that Martin made of special effort to keep the doves on site despite that fact that they should be moving south to feed.
Yes, we shot a lot, eat a lot, and in fact, the average weight gain per person was around 5 lbs.
In short, it is a great hunting club, keenly managed by some of the nicest people you ever could meet.
I have enclosed a summary sheet made by Martin of the shots fried, doves killed and shooting averages. Not to brag of course, but we challenge any of the other gangs that happen to book with you to beat these scores.
Our great appreciation for providing us with an excellent hunt and stay in Chañares."
Regards,
- Charlie |
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"Had a great time with you guys. Everything was 5 star. Way beyond my expectations. I really have no negative comments. I can't wait to go back."
- R. B Feucht II MD |
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"The trip was great! Alex and his staff were very professional and Los Chanares is a warm and delightful lodge on a beautiful estancia. Food, accommodations, and the dove shooting are truly world class. Thanks for your part in making it a very special trip."
- Bill, Holland |
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"I just wanted to take a minute to thank you for the hunt we just had at Los Chanares. To say it was fabulous would be an understatement. I still can't believe the number of dove in your area. My friend Jeff and I shot 7375 shells and took nearly 6000 doves in three days. Incredible!!! Alex and your staff did a wonderful job. I hope to return with more friends soon."
- B. Bradley |
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"Thanks for a fantastic trip. Dad and Curt both have had a permanent smiles since their return, and I don't think words could describe their surprise of encountering so many dove. Any chance you might be adding a more-exclusive 1,500 Bird Club?
The first-rate performance of Los Chanares on this experience will no doubt pave the way for future business. You have a first-class operation on all fronts."
Thanks again,
- J. Herrington, California
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"As you might expect with any trip to Los Chanares,my trip was fabulous. 3/4 of the guests were repeat customers, which says so much for the service ,the courtesy, the birds, the food, the lodge and of course for Alex. I too am a repeat customer of Alex's and that pretty much sealed the deal for me when I found out Alex was the jefe of this lodge."
- S. Wood, Texas |
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"I've been to Argentina 16 or 17 times with 3 different outfitters stayed at
8 or9 different estancias. Los Chanares is the best. This includes staff
,lodge,food, birds and very important, short rides to the birds. I will be
back with my boys. Hope the refferals generate business."
Thanks,
- C. Monsted |
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" We had a good hunt and was well taken care of and David was most generous. Birds were good and I was high shooter and got my 2000 bird a day golf shirt on both full days of shooting. See the old man still has it !!!!! 6083 birds in 19 hours at 87% All made it without injury or illness so it was successful. May we continue for many more years as good friends with good health and good hunting. "
Best wishes
- Max |
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"I enjoyed my time in Cordoba a great deal. It was a great break from my routine.
I found the birds amazing! More or less continuous flight through the day, and challenging (lots of variety). I did not feel the need to spend more than a couple of hours hunting in the morning and again in the afternoon - I was completely sated after this, and have no enthusiasm for volume, when the quality is so good.
The food was excellent, and more than enough. I was treated as a house guest and felt good about this.
The lodging was comfortable and I enjoyed the fire in the evening. I was able to spend a little time sketching, some time reading, and time reflecting over a glass (or two) of good wine.
Hugo, the birdboy was attentive and capable. I appreciated his advice and assistance, as well as conversation.
The house staff were also attentive and friendly.
My transfers were efficient.
Overall I was treated very well, with personal attention, and enjoyed my experience greatly. I hope to be back before too long.
-A. Hippman |
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"To Alex, Jessica, and all the incredible staff at Los Chanares: Thank you
for an unbelievable experience. My friend Scott and I will be telling
stories from our trip for a long long time. There is nowhere else in the
world to see that kind of shooting! I hope there will be many more visits to
Los Chanares in the future. Thanks again for running such a class
operation."
-R. Kyger |
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"thanks alex and jessica for a sensational trip. Just got back to the UK (no charlie didn't get off in Sao Paulo for once). Best trip ever, couldn't ask for more. That windy day will live long in the memory - 80 mph high doves are what we brits dream about. Karin loved her handbag by the way. Hope you've managed to replace the vodka!!!"
-I. Bullough, UK |
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"My friend and I truly enjoyed a once in a lifetime type experience. Alex and his staff are complete professionals and tremendous hosts. The weather was perfect and the shooting is like nothing we have ever seen before. Every aspect of our trip exceeded our expectations. I look forward to returning there next year if my wife doesn't kill me! Thank you again for all your help."
-Sincerely,
R. Kyger |
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"The trip was awesome and could not have been any better in my dreams. The food meets the standards of any 5 star rated restaurant and that's coming from a New Orleans set of taste buds. We look forward to another hunt in the future. Thanks for everything."
-M. Starring, New Orleans |
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"Your group does a great job! I thought that last year was great, but this year was even better! Alex knows how to add the little touches that set you all apart. Thanks and we all enjoyed, look forward to next year."
-AW Fields, North Carolina |
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"Great trip. Alex and staff really took care of us and he furnished us with more variety of hunts than last year. It was flawless."
-B. C Magli,Tennessee |
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"Both Christy and I wanted to let you know how much we enjoyed out stay with you guys. It is not often that my wife is as excited about hunting trips as myself. Knowing that she enjoyed her trip as much as I did says a lot about the quality of your lodge. She has already said that I can not return with out her. We enjoyed the shooting, the meals, the lodge, and the staff, it was all top notch. We wish you the very best for the future and look forward to our next trip to Los Chanares."
-Shane & C. Allman, Texas |
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"I want to thank you and your staff for the most unbelievable hunting experience I could have ever imagined. From the moment we arrived in Cordoba until we were taken back to the airport, everything was first class. No detail is overlooked...the food and service were incredible! You have a great operation and manage it with skills that I have not seen in any other lodges I have been to.
In my opinion, the hunting is the best wing shooting in the world. Five stars do not do your operation justice! Please say hello to Jessica and I hope to see you again very soon."
-B. Payne, Florida,
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"I wanted to send you a note of appreciation for the absolutely wonderful trip we had to Los Chanares. I can't say enough good things about the accommodations. The food was first class, the room was very comfortable, the common rooms were charming and of course the shooting was over the top!
I simply can't imagine finding a place with more to offer. Two points really stood out for me as far as the hunting was concerned -- first, there were no long drives which most other places require and second, the roost shooting was unbelievable!
The shooting spread sheets and the picture CD were a great bonus.
Again, many thanks for the trip of a lifetime! You run an amazing operation."
-G. Kauffmann,
Virginia, USA |
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"I wanted to thank you again for the fantastic hospitality. Carol truly appreciated your attention to make her comfortable. She is still talking about the city tour. Thank you so much! Please tell everyone at Los Chanares that we are looking forward to seeing you again."
-B. Reitz, Pennsylvania,
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"The lodge was the best I have been to. Alex, Jessica and the rest of the staff were outstanding! Of special note was the cuisine -- Daniel was superb in the kitchen.
The dove hunting was spectacular. The fact that the shooting was never more than 10 minutes away from the lodge was so convenient. As a group, shooting more than 15,000 doves was fantastic! Never shooting in the same place more than once was refreshing. Shooting in hilly terrain instead of plain field shooting was a great change.
Alex and David have the right setup, and so far they are getting it right. I wish you well and hopefully we will not only be the first Jamaican group to visit, but we will be back with friends."
-G. Chong,
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"We can't stop talking about what a great time we had at Estancia Los Chanares -- so much so that our co-workers hide from us when we walk down the hall! I can't tell if it's because they don't believe the number of birds we shot or if they are just tired of hearing about our trip. In any event, it was such a great trip and I appreciate very much all you did to make it a success. Once again, thank you for a great hunt. I hope I have the opportunity to hunt with you again."
-J. E (Rusty) Cook,
Alabama, USA |
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"I had a wonderful time at Los Chanares. The shooting was first class and both Alex and Jessica were perfect hosts. Alex put me in positions to shoot high birds, which is exactly what I requested -- not that I hit many!
The food was first class. The accommodations were very clean and comfortable, and the staff was courteous and helpful. All-in-all, it was a fantastic experience, and I hope to do it again soon with some friends from the UK.
Most importantly, I would like to thank you for arranging the weekend at very short notice! It was very kind of you and I did have a really great time."
-N. Nash, UK |
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"I would like to compliment you on the first class operation that Los Chanares is. I had never been to South America, nor had I ever hunted anything before! Argentina and the people are beautiful and my dove hunting experience at the estancia was as good as it gets.
Alex, Jessica & Martin (along with the entire staff) made my stay too wonderful to truly describe in words-so I'll just say it was PERFECT!"
-J. McNulty,
Pennsylvania, USA |
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"We just wanted to write a note to say that we arrived home safely on Tuesday. We want to sincerely thank you for a most enjoyable vacation.
The estancia, the staff, the food and the general atmosphere were all marvelous!
As far as the shooting was concerned I have been shooting now for over 40 years and have never experienced anything better...and I have been to many places to shoot birds.
Thank you so much, all of you...and particularly you, David."
-J. Hindmarch, UK |
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"A great time was had by all! Your improvements are excellent. You have added many fine touches like the perfectly manicured shooting spots and well fed doves, better hors d'oeuvres, the welcoming towel, better and more food, clean towels, the massage staff, the improved layout of the sitting room and bar, wider selection of fine wines, WiFi access, the use of your guns, better entertainment and the unforgettable Tango.
We all really appreciate the attention that you, Alex, Jessica and the entire staff gave to us...outstanding!
The arrangements John made were perfect. Without Ana Marie, it would have been a nightmare at the airport! She was also an excellent tour guide. You all are to be complimented.
I'd say in my 12+ trips to Argentina, this was by far the best. You all have really made Los Chanares THE place to shoot doves in Argentina. We look forward to returning and I will be in touch to set dates for the future."
-R. Lipsey,
Louisiana, USA |
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How I wish that I were back at Los Chanares eating a wonderful dinner and talking about tomorrow morning's shooting plans!
All six of us had the most wonderful time at your lodge in Cordoba. Argentina has long been my favorite country to visit, and I have wanted to take my son there to shoot birds and to experience all Argentina has to offer. You and Jessica made everything absolutely perfect for what I hope will be the first of many trips for David and Fredericka -- as well as many returns for me!
-E. Randall,
Texas, USA |
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"I wanted to thank everyone at Los Chanares for a wonderful shooting experience. In the future, I plan to organize a group of my friends from Georgia to hunt there. With luck, we can all schedule time off to travel together at the same time.
Again, I would like to thank you for an incredible time. I could not have dreamed of a better shooting experience -- being offered shot after shot of endless doves and finishing the days with sore muscles, blistered hands and gun powder stinging my nostrils! Thanks Alex."
-B. Callis,
Georgia, USA |
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"Once again, I just wanted to let you know that we all had a wonderful time at Los Chanares--there is simply nothing better. Everyone back home can't believe it was better than last time (2004) but there is no doubt that it was 10 times better! I need to send you a copy of the video I shot while I was there--it is pretty funny.
I know that next time we are going to have a huge line of people wanting to come back with us! There is no doubt we will round up 16 people and have another BIG PARTY--with a little dove hunting on the side!"
-K. Craig, South Carolina,
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Thank you Alex! We arrived home to 10 inches of snow on New Year's Eve. The boys were upset that they missed the fireworks at Los Chanares. I guess next time we will stay for New Years!
We all had an absolutely awesome time. As I told you while we were there, it exceeded expectations...the staff, the accommodations, the food and of course the hunting. Please send my regards to Jessica as well!
The photo CD was great. Your pictures were much better than the ones I took... a very nice touch.
We'll stay in touch as I am sure we will be back again soon. The boys say 'hi' to those horses you call dogs."
-B. Borrman,
Minnesota, USA |
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"Ronald Pulliam, Bo and I had a wonderful time at Estancia Los Chanares. It certainly exceeded our expectations. I can't imagine a better hunting experience!
There are three things that make your Ranch so special. First, the accommodations were excellent -- rooms were nice and very relaxing. It's a great place to kick back and eat wonderful meals while visiting with guests and staff after a long day of hunting.
Second, the entire staff was friendly and made a special effort to make us feel welcome. I especially appreciated the attention paid to Bo and Mr. Pulliam. It was such a nice personal touch for you to stay and watch after us.
Finally, the sheer number of doves and layout of the various fields were incredible! There was never a dull moment and we all enjoyed the opportunity to try the difficult shooting patterns. Each half day's hunt was an entirely new experience. Our favorite was the shoot where we were positioned on the side of the mountain. What a beautiful scenic experience!
Thanks again for the wonderful bird hunting trip. Please share our appreciation with your entire staff. You are very fortunate to have them. I have assured John LaRussa that he needs to send more clients your way and I am doing my part to spread the word. I look forward to my next trip to Estancia Los
Chanares."
-B. Welden,
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"All the dove shooting places you mention are good, but there is a definite pecking order among them. The Trek options are eliminated because they are hammered so hard by so many shooters that the doves tend to fly very high. Salta is very hard to get to and it can be very hot there, depending on when you go. La Guarida is a nice place, but you face long drives on bad roads to the shooting fields. I think of Los Ombues as a mixed-bag place -- good for all three species it offers but not in the same league for any given species as other places which offer only that species.
That brings us to Los Chanares. I would say without hesitation that it is the best dove-shooting resort in the world. You may have read about it in books, but here is recent news about Los Chanares that makes it even better. It has recently changed ownership! The new owner is a young, enthusiastic American by the name of David Perez. I met with him several times during a recent trip to Argentina, and was quite favorably impressed. He has hired a top manager, he bought a large number of new Benelli 20 gauge semi-autos and he hired a brand new kitchen staff so the quality of food and service are definitely superior to what it was. Perhaps most importantly, he has lowered the daily cost.
One great feature of Los Chanares is that you can pick and choose the kinds of shots you want. Every shooting stand is graded according to the difficulty of birds. Beginning shooters are placed on hilltops where the birds fly low, whereas expert shooters are placed down in swales and valleys where they pass much higher. Each shooter announces the degree of difficulty of shots he wants and is placed accordingly.
I would have to say that Los Chanares is unquestionably the finest dove-shooting resort in the world. You can easily fire 4 cases (2000 rounds) of shells there.
Los Chanares is very much in demand during certain times of the year, so it is strongly recommended to make your reservations early. The periods most in demand are January through March and July through November."
-S. Williams, Washington,
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"We had a great time at your estancia!
The hunting was spectacular -- especially the afternoon when the 30 mph morning winds subsided to gentle breezes. The food was excellent! We especially enjoyed the dove burrito dinner and the fantastic grilled steak at lunch after our morning shoot. As great as lunch was, I was a little bit late because it's hard to remove the hunt from the dog! Rafael, our bird boy, was a great help and seemed to enjoy the shot as much as I did."
-B. Noryko, California,
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"The trip was AWESOME! All day long, emails have been flying back and forth about how great everything was. I have not heard a complaint yet about anything.! BsAs was definitely the icing on the cake.
Stay in touch and let me know if you or Alex ever want to travel to Louisiana. Mi casa es su casa..."
-N. J Zeringue, Louisiana,
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"We had a great time last week at Los Chanares. The amenities, service and food were absolutely second to none. Your staff is top-notch and I appreciate the effort that went in to making our hunt what was described to me by one client as 'the very best vacation ever had, hunting or otherwise.'
The photo CD was also an excellent touch. I appreciate those pictures very much.
We will see you again soon."
-R. Russell, Arkansas,
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